
I hope you're feeling better?
Thom wrote:Based on discussions I've had with those I've met from AVEN, the members that are disliked by admins and moderators will have the rules morphed in such a way that they'd warrant a warn for that member. However, if the member that they do like said the same thing, they'd get away with it. Everything that the admins and moderators do on AVEN is subject to their own bias towards that specific member.
Cavalier080854 wrote:Well I have been warned about elitism and invalidating others. I deny no ones identity, if one person's view destroys another then it is a pretty weak identity. If you only want affirmation, then the world will not accommodate you. You have to be strong internally, to msny people have mental issues which they should sort out first before fixing on the identity politics and sexual orientation.
AVEN is a place of predominantly sexual people working on what they are before proceeding. It chose quantity before quality and throw Asexuals under the bus before other more "marginal" identities. Asexuals are second class people in a site dedicated to Asexuals.
As for Ciri, I would probably be member 2, I said I would attend with an Ace shirt, but only if it was convenient. No malice is meant, this is just passive aggressive action. I don't attend many, usually up to 50 miles.
KAGU143 wrote:Wow Bryan - I'm sorry I wasn't here when all of this was going down. (Long story short . . . real life stuff got in the way.)
For what it's worth, though - Welcome to Apositive!
All I can say is that you are welcome here no matter how you identify, you can talk about anything you want to talk about, you can have any opinion you want to have (and so can anybody else) BUT I don't allow personal attacks. Ever. I also don't allow others to come in and attack my precious members! (That would reveal my bad side in a split second, and there could be fire!)
Griping about injustice is fine, by all means - just be careful about naming names since many AVENites are members here, too.
I can't say much about what goes on over at AVEN since I rarely go there any more, but I can promise you that Apositive is more tolerant and forgiving. There are no warnings here and I don't know what a member would have to do to get banned since, aside from spammers, it has never happened.
If I see something that I feel crosses the line then I will delete or edit it and PM the member with my reason. Easy! No fuss, no muss. No public shame.
If you (or anybody) really think that AVEN is being unfair, then I would suggest that you save the proof. I don't know what their current policies are when it comes to copying and pasting posts, warnings, PMs, etc. I suspect that anything other than links to public posts might be prohibited, but if you think the admods might decide to hide pertinent info then it would make sense for you to grab it before they do. I would NOT recommend posting it anyplace else, especially not publicly, but I don't see an issue with keeping it for yourself as well as telling them that you have it.
Bryan wrote:Fun fact is that i didn't even report the person but they made it look like a report and they ignored my question that i wanted this to be brought to the backroom that staff shouldn't ignore members!I almost ended up losing my shit because of the miscommunication caused on their side and gave up.
Bryan wrote:I've also reported the mod who kept baiting me after i asked them for an explanation why they hid my posts seconds after i posted it and they ignored it in one of the very threads in their forum. They blatantly troll called when they told me my simple "are you kidding me?" would generate too many reports and what not while i'm pretty sure they only did it because they didn't like the way i responded to another person in the same thread. They kept on baiting the other member too who confronted them with not hiding other people's posts while they did hide mine wich appearantly was something that ticked the mod off.
When the other member confronted the mod with their behavior towards blatant TOS breaking posts they kept on baiting the member who confronted them by lashing out personal attacks and such while hours later ending up hiding my posts giving me a "f*ck you!" type of half assed warn for vig modding and flaming/trolling wich is obvious proof they were blatantly pissed at me confronting them with their own BS.The warn was given my the same mod trolling members in their own forum when comfronted with their behavior in that thread!
I reported the mod for the exact same thing they did and appealed my warn, i'm pretty sure my appeal will be denied (they are taking WEEKS to respond to emails) and the mod will still continue to be a mod and i'll keep on getting stickys on how not to kill myself while covering themselves with more red tape. What can i do? The BOD won't do shit about it because they don't care.One of them litterly told me they don't care about what happens in the backroom as they don't check the backroom.Yes, you read that one right.They don't check what admods do to their own site!
Bryan wrote:I've got the evidence, I highlighted posts that were blatantly TOS breaking but all i get in return are more sticky's, more coddling and more "Dude, it's not the way you think it is!" type of responses. I can't even stand looking at AVEN Staff destroying members like that. If they are a member here, let them come look at the damage they are causing to others with their own misconduct, if members come here let them see how AVEN Staff messes with their safety issues and other concerns regarding them using their own bias and inconsistency. There are plenty more currently suffering from mental health issues because of what AVEN has done with them. The very posts on this thread in apos are the very result of the way AVEN sees their own members.I've noticed that since i left AVEN, my health is slowly starting to get much better because i know now i have no reason to go back there anymore.I honestly wish they could just delete the account instead of letting it float around in the banned member group but i have over 9k posts so they won’t do it, they’ve just blanked it and banned it.
Lia wrote:Okie dokie. Let's get a few things straight, shall we?Bryan wrote:Fun fact is that i didn't even report the person but they made it look like a report and they ignored my question that i wanted this to be brought to the backroom that staff shouldn't ignore members!I almost ended up losing my shit because of the miscommunication caused on their side and gave up.
Yeah see, there was a discussion going on about this very same thing while you were on DT. And YOU EVEN COMMENTED ON IT. So what other discussion did you want staff to have in regards to this? Serious question.Bryan wrote:I've also reported the mod who kept baiting me after i asked them for an explanation why they hid my posts seconds after i posted it and they ignored it in one of the very threads in their forum. They blatantly troll called when they told me my simple "are you kidding me?" would generate too many reports and what not while i'm pretty sure they only did it because they didn't like the way i responded to another person in the same thread. They kept on baiting the other member too who confronted them with not hiding other people's posts while they did hide mine wich appearantly was something that ticked the mod off.
When the other member confronted the mod with their behavior towards blatant TOS breaking posts they kept on baiting the member who confronted them by lashing out personal attacks and such while hours later ending up hiding my posts giving me a "f*ck you!" type of half assed warn for vig modding and flaming/trolling wich is obvious proof they were blatantly pissed at me confronting them with their own BS.The warn was given my the same mod trolling members in their own forum when comfronted with their behavior in that thread!
I reported the mod for the exact same thing they did and appealed my warn, i'm pretty sure my appeal will be denied (they are taking WEEKS to respond to emails) and the mod will still continue to be a mod and i'll keep on getting stickys on how not to kill myself while covering themselves with more red tape. What can i do? The BOD won't do shit about it because they don't care.One of them litterly told me they don't care about what happens in the backroom as they don't check the backroom.Yes, you read that one right.They don't check what admods do to their own site!
I don't even know where to begin. Let's start here:
I explained why I hid your post.
If an Admod PM's you and says "your post could be considered trolling", that's not the same as a member troll calling another member. We're doing our jobs, you know, explaining why your post was hidden or why you were warned, or why you shouldn't have posted the thing in the first place. Your other option is to simply have the post disappear with no explanation but I don't think you'd really like that much, yeah? Yeah.
I was very clear in your warn text why you were warned. If you were unclear, you could have PM'd with questions, or any other Admod, too, if you didn't want to speak with me. That's cool. I get it. I wouldn't want to speak with the mod who warned me, either.
Not sure why you emailed your appeal, rather than PM'd? But in any case, I will poke Admods again to finish a draft and send it out today as it shouldn't take this long to send any response.
Bryan wrote:I've got the evidence, I highlighted posts that were blatantly TOS breaking but all i get in return are more sticky's, more coddling and more "Dude, it's not the way you think it is!" type of responses. I can't even stand looking at AVEN Staff destroying members like that. If they are a member here, let them come look at the damage they are causing to others with their own misconduct, if members come here let them see how AVEN Staff messes with their safety issues and other concerns regarding them using their own bias and inconsistency. There are plenty more currently suffering from mental health issues because of what AVEN has done with them. The very posts on this thread in apos are the very result of the way AVEN sees their own members.I've noticed that since i left AVEN, my health is slowly starting to get much better because i know now i have no reason to go back there anymore.I honestly wish they could just delete the account instead of letting it float around in the banned member group but i have over 9k posts so they won’t do it, they’ve just blanked it and banned it.
So, as I've said over and over, ToS is written in a way that leaves much open to interpretation. You were free to interpret the ToS in your own views when you were a Mod, especially had you chosen to solo-mod your forums. That leaves more room for appeals as the solo mod who sent the warn must abstain from the appeal if one comes in. I'd say more about this particular thread that you're hot over, but you seem too report happy for my tastes so I'll just leave you with no further explanation, mainly to save wasting Admin time
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I hate to see conflict, hostility and ever-escalating levels of misunderstanding taking place within small groups which really should be united rather than divided. I know it happens, but I don't have to like it . . .
Basic rules 101 for supervising any online forum should include the following: Mods and admods can neither be ignored by members NOR can they ignore any members, no matter the provocation. I find it hard to believe that any forum would allow that to happen.
Anyway, for what it's worth, Bryan, if email is a hassle you could always use Apositive's PM system to contact Lia as an AVEN representative, now that it appears that she's active on the site.
I wish I could do more, but I'm basically just sitting on the sidelines and feeling bad about the whole situation.
Lia wrote:You can vent about misconduct. Just don't lie while doing it. If you feel you were wronged, you have every right to feel that way. Don't twist facts to suit your narrative. That's what brought me to respond to your posts here, Jayce.
Ciri wrote:Precious admin time? They don't give a shit about their members. I've received 3 messages recently from admins saying they basically refuse to talk to me. So yeah, they don't care as long as their precious favourites are catered to
Lia wrote:If you want to spout code of conduct or terms of service (AVEN's) to me, you should know them.
Saying you're lying about things isn't my word against yours - there's proof...on AVEN